Almost no instruments are in tune and it's annoying

The "well tempered" scale is BROKEN just as the "just tempered" scale is broken, just in different ways, so I end up playing fretless things and slide or bending a LOT behind frets to be marginally close to in what is "in tune". I can tune instruments by ear and have been able to do that since I was about three years old, but the basic tuning breaks up really badly on fret instruments and keyboards, because it's either the "well tempered" "average things wrong" or the "just tempered" I can only play in one key.

Bastard thing and God is laughing at us for it but I'm thinking about making a fretless Telecaster so I can play more easily in tune, but the actual notes sound different than fret notes, when it's just finger pressing string to neck, so you're screwed either way.

Been looking at a lot of ways to fret a neck where it'd be closer to in tune but still have frets but they all seem to have their own problems, and we are back to God is laughing at us. Wish all I liked to play was fretless things and steel, but I like fretted instruments too. I am doomed! Anyway, as for something related and to listen to and think about on insomniac odd person Saturday...

The black keys were originally on pianos, as they were notes you might not want to hit, iffin the piano was just tempered.

Now we have nice fifths and octaves but lost thirds and sixths unless you go fretless.

Unless one of these multiple "just tempered" microtonal guitars works out...We shall see. Or else I'll just keep bending the hell out of things while I'm fretting notes and HATING PIANO AND KEY PLAYERS because their instruments are intentionally designed to be marginally out of tune in all keys.

My Bagpipes are in C and D and they are perfectly in tune in both, my fretless instruments are as in tune as my ear, and fretted and keyboard instruments are BROKEN by design, although I like Thelonious Monk and a lot of fretted picked stuff.

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RECKON "BOTH"???

Actually own one of the fretfull Godin guitars, back from the days David Allan Played them, takes TWO nine volt batteries to run the electronics and was made when you had to pay CRAY to have a fast computer and the English still had industry that wasn't things they just broker and have made in China... :-)

Nothing works right, some things are just closer than others in a particular context.

Frequency ratios that reduce to small whole number ratios are perceived as consonant. The ear hears many of the notes of the overtone series as being consonant but not all of them. The ear may discern a pattern in equal divisions of the octave, but does not hear it as consonant.

After you take the quiz, GO LEARN SOMETHING :-)

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From an old article that agrees with my ranting:

"For centuries, equal temperament didn't catch on because musicians tended not to like it. Even when fretted instruments were invented and lutes and guitars were mostly tuned in equal temperament, they still didn't like it. Most especially, musicians didn't like the fat major thirds of equal temperament, which are way out of tune with nature. They preferred the sweet thirds of meantone temperaments, with all their limitations. For another thing, in meantone each key had an audible personality, from, say, the almost-pure and upstanding C major, suitable to moods of equanimity and celebration, to shadowy C minor, suitable for doubt and despair. Equal temperament leaves every key with exactly the same personality, which was widely felt to be boring. Musicians still preferred, then, the old varieties of what is generically called unequal temperament."

Boomer Lad likes B, A, and G when they aren't equally tempered, with a bit of a B-Flat fetish...Keys are like colors, unless you fuck them all up by evening things out, designed for people that think capos are a good idea for guitars because they're too fucking lazy to figure out how to play in the key they want to play in and basically want to spend their whole fucking life using chord shapes that most people learned in their first week of guitar lessons because they suck and are lazy and such. Many of them are good lyricists, few of them are good guitarists. Capos and equal temper, crutches for people with broken ears? Occasional applications of all tools can be useful, at times, but to intentionally spend your whole life a bit lazy and out of tune doesn't sound like much of a winner to me.

Properly tempered and likely the most unlikely and coolest version of a familiar tune you might hear this year, or decade.

As it progresses, you WILL SMILE, as you realize the origins.

Music that's IN TUNE and it'll make your brain hurt a bit to think about, regarding managing this on a fretless guitar?